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Top-Ökonomin Grimm will Rentenalter automatisch anheben

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Veronika Grimm, Mitglied im Sachverständigenrat der Bundesregierung, möchte das Renteneintrittsalter gern weiter anheben.

Veronika Grimm, Mitglied im Sachverständigenrat der Bundesregierung, möchte das Renteneintrittsalter gern weiter anheben.

Foto: Britta Pedersen / picture alliance/dpa

Wirtschaftsweise Veronika Grimm hält es für zwingend notwendig, dass die Deutschen länger arbeiten. Sie schlägt dazu eine Formel vor.

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