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Prof. Dr. Henning Vöpel ist Direktor des Hamburgischen WeltWirtschaftsInstituts

Prof. Dr. Henning Vöpel ist Direktor des Hamburgischen WeltWirtschaftsInstituts

Foto: Klaus Bodig / HA / Klaus Bodig

Henning Vöpel im Gespräch mit dem Abendblatt über die Schwächen Hamburgs und das Bröckeln der Sportstadt nach dem Olympia-Aus.

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