Interview

Warum ist die AfD in Hamburg so schwach?

Lesedauer: 13 Minuten
Andreas Dey und Jens Meyer-Wellmann
Die beiden Fraktionsvorsitzenden der AfD in der Bürgerschaft, Dirk Nockemann (links) und Alexander Wolf.

Die beiden Fraktionsvorsitzenden der AfD in der Bürgerschaft, Dirk Nockemann (links) und Alexander Wolf.

Foto: Michael Rauhe / Michael Rauhe / FUNKE Foto Services

Die Fraktionsvorsitzenden Alexander Wolf und Dirk Nockemann über Meinungsfreiheit, Rechtsruck und die autofreie Innenstadt.

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