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Jobcenter-Chef: Das muss sich bei Hartz IV ändern

Lesedauer: 7 Minuten
Dirk Heyden ist Geschäftsführer vom Jobcenter team.arbeit.hamburg

Dirk Heyden ist Geschäftsführer vom Jobcenter team.arbeit.hamburg

Foto: Michael Rauhe / Michael Rauhe / FUNKE Foto Services

Das System sei zu kompliziert und biete kaum Anreize, arbeiten zu gehen. Dirk Heyden plädiert zudem für eine Kinder-Grundsicherung.

Hamburg.  Rund 15 Jahre nach ihrer Einführung stehen die unter dem Schlagwort Hartz IV bekannt gewordenen Sozialstaats-Reformen massiv in der Kritik. Die SPD, deren Kanzler Gerhard Schröder die Reform seinerzeit durchgesetzt hatte, plädiert für massive Kurskorrekturen und frohlockte bereits: „Wir lassen Hartz IV hinter uns.“

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