Hamburgs neuem Finanzsenator im Interview

Frigge: "Alles auf den Prüfstand - außer der Schulreform"

Lesedauer: 13 Minuten

Foto: Marcelo Hernandez

Carsten Frigge fragt, ob Hamburg sich den Uni-Umzug leisten kann. Großprojekte wie die Elbphilharmonie sollen besser gemanagt werden.

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