Erstklassisch mit Mischke

Christoph Eschenbach: „Große Musik spricht aus sich selber“

Lesedauer: 12 Minuten
Joachim Mischke
„Ich lese die Partitur wie ein Buch“: Christoph Eschenbach beim Notenstudium.

„Ich lese die Partitur wie ein Buch“: Christoph Eschenbach beim Notenstudium.

Foto: Manu Theobald

Für Dirigent Eschenbach wäre ein Leben ohne Musik als Mittelpunkt wohl weder möglich noch sinnstiftend.

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