Mišel Matičević im Interview

„Lehrer haben mir oft gesagt, ich sei hier nur Gast“

Lesedauer: 9 Minuten
Peter Zander
Der Schauspieler Mišel Matičević ärgert sich, wenn sein Name falsch ausgesprochen wird. 

Der Schauspieler Mišel Matičević ärgert sich, wenn sein Name falsch ausgesprochen wird. 

Foto: Joerg Krauthoefer / FUNKE Foto Services

Mišel Matičević spielt die Hauptrolle im Kinofilm „Exil“. Erfahrungen mit Rassismus hat er auch im eigenen Leben gemacht.

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