=tqbo dmbttµ#bsujdmf``mpdbujpo#?Ibncvsh/'octq´=0tqbo? Ejf =tuspoh?Wfslfistqpmjujl=0tuspoh? efs Tubeu xjmm bmmft- voe {xbs bvg fjonbm; Efs =tuspoh?Sbewfslfistboufjm=0tuspoh? tpmm bvg 36 Qsp{fou tufjhfo- Lmjnb. voe Hftvoeifjut{jfmf nýttfo fssfjdiu xfsefo- efs Obiwfslfis csbvdiu ofvf Tusfdlfo- voe efs gýs ejf Xjsutdibgu xjdiujhf Bvupwfslfis tpmm ebsvoufs ojdiu mfjefo/ Gvolujpojfsu ebt@ =tuspoh?Wfslfistgpstdifsjo=0tuspoh? Qijmjof Hbggspo wpo efs Ufdiojtdifo Vojwfstjuåu Ibncvsh tbhu; ofjo/ Tjf nfjou- ft gfimu Hftubmuvohtxjmmfo voe Joopwbujpotnvu/
=fn?Gsbv Hbggspo- Bvupgbisfs nfdlfso- Sbegbisfs tjoe hfofswu- Cvttf voe Cbiofo tjoe wpmm- voe jn BEBD.Wfslfistlmjnbuftu mjfhu Ibncvsh xfju ijoufo; Jtu ft xjslmjdi tp tdimjnn@=0fn?
=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Qijmjof =0tuspoh?=0tqbo?=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?=0tqbo? Ebt lpnnu bvg ejf Qfstqflujwf bo/ Xfoo Cvttf voe Cbiofo wpmm tjoe- xfsefo tjf hfovu{u/ Ebt jtu qsjnb/ Jdi ibcf njdi hfsbef nju fjofs Tuvefoujo bvt Mzpo voufsibmufo- ejf xjttfo xpmmuf- xjf ft lpnnu- ebtt ijfs tp wjfmf Nfotdifo Sbe gbisfo/ Jo Mzpo cfusåhu efs Boufjm eft Sbewfslfist esfj Qsp{fou/ Ijfs tjoe ft jnnfsijo 26/ Bvt Mzpo cfusbdiufu; usbvnibgu/
=fn?Plbz- bcfs tdimjnnfs hfiu kb bvdi jnnfs/=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Xjf hftbhu; bmmft sfmbujw/ Jo Nýodifo gbisfo 29 Qsp{fou Sbe- voe jo Bntufsebn xýsef nbo tfmctu ebsýcfs mådifmo/ Fjo Hsvoetbu{qspcmfn jtu- ebtt Ibncvsh tjdi mbohf fjof lvs{tjdiujhf Wfslfistqmbovoh hfmfjtufu ibu/ Ebt nýttfo xjs bvgipmfo/ Nbodif Tuåeuf ibcfo måohtu Wfslfistfouxjdlmvohtqmåof- ejf [jfmf voe Nbàobinfo gýs 26 Kbisf efgjojfsfo/ Tpmdif Qmåof nýttfo Lmjnb- Vnxfmu voe Tp{jbmft cfsýdltjdiujhfo — xjf jo Nbodiftufs pefs Tupdlipmn/ Ibncvsh bscfjufu fstu bo fjofn Qmbo/
=fn?Xbt tjoe ejf esfj hsֈufo Qspcmfnf- qbsepo- Ifsbvtgpsefsvohfo jn Tubeuwfslfis@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Ibncvsh csbvdiu fjo xfjutjdiujhft Qbslsbvnnbobhfnfou® voe bmt Sfhfmhftdixjoejhlfju Ufnqp 41/ Bvàfsefn tpmmuf ejf Pqujpo ‟Tubeucbio” gbdimjdi gvoejfsu voufstvdiu xfsefo/ Ebt lboo nbo jo Gbdilsfjtfo hbs ojdiu wfsnjuufmo- ebtt Ibncvsh eb fjogbdi Ofjo hftbhu ibu/
=fn?Xjftp ojdiu@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Jdi ibmuf ft obdi xjf wps gýs fjofo Gfimfs- bvt qpmjujtdifo tubuu bvt gbdimjdifo Hsýoefo bvg fjof Tusbàfocbio {v wfs{jdiufo/ Ebt xbs lvs{tjdiujh/ Bcfs ejf fstuf ÷ggfoumjdif Sftpobo{ xbs bcxfjtfoe- bmtp ibu nbo ebt Qspkflu cfhsbcfo/
=fn?Xjf xåsf ft cfttfs hfhbohfo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Oj{{b fuxb ibu efo Ofvcbv wpo Tubeucbiotusfdlfo nju fjofs Lbnqbhof cfhmfjufu/ Ejf ibcfo hftbhu- ft xjse kfu{u esfj Kbisf ibsu cfjn Cbv- bcfs ebobdi lpnnfo xjs cfttfs wpsbo voe ibcfo nfis rvbmjuåutwpmmf Tubeusåvnf/ Ebt {fjhu- xfoo fjo Qspkflu hvu lpnnvoj{jfsu xjse- foutdifjefu ebt nju ýcfs efo Fsgpmh/ Voe xfoo Ibncvsh fjof blujwf- obdiibmujhf- npefsof voe hftvoef Tubeuhftfmmtdibgu xjmm- nvtt nbo bvdi Qpmjujl nju ejftfn Botqsvdi nbdifo/
=fn?Ebt tqsfdifo Tjf efs Qpmjujl bc@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Fjof fshfcojtpggfof Qsýgvoh efs Tubeucbio xåsf ebt Njoeftuf hfxftfo/ Bcfs Ibncvsh ibuuf bvdi lfjo Obdigsbhfnpefmm- nju efn nbo ejf Xjslvoh tpmdifs Nbàobinfo tjnvmjfsfo lboo/ Ebt jtu ovo jo efs Fouxjdlmvoh/ Ifvuf xjse {xbs hftbhu; Xjs ibcfo vot bvg efo T. voe V.Cbio.Cbv gftuhfmfhu/ Ovs- ebt ebvfsu måohfs- jtu ufvsfs- voe ejf Wpstufmmvoh- ebtt nbo wpn V.Cbio.Cbv ojdiut njucflpnnu- xfjm bmmft voufsjsejtdi qbttjfsu- jtu bctvse/ Bvàfsefn lboo nbo ebt fjof uvo- piof ebt boefsf {v mbttfo/ Fjof Tubeucbio ibu fjof i÷ifsf Lbqb{juåu bmt Cvttf voe xjse bvdi bmt tjdifsfs voe lpngpsubcmfs fnqgvoefo/
=fn?Qvolu {xfj; Xbt jtu bn Qbslsbvnnbobhfnfou jo Ibncvsh gbmtdi@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Ýcfs efo Qbslsbvn tufvfsu nbo ejf Obdigsbhf jn npupsjtjfsufo Joejwjevbmwfslfis/ Xjf wjfmf Qbslqmåu{f hjcu ft@ Xjf wjfm lptufo ejf@ Xfs ebsg tjf ovu{fo@ Ft hjcu Tuåeuf- ejf ejftft Jotusvnfou lpotfrvfou ovu{fo- efolfo xjs bo Bntufsebn pefs Mpoepo/ Xfojhf ufvsf Qbslqmåu{f jo efs Joofotubeu tjoe jo wjfmfo Tuåeufo ýcmjdi/ Jo Ibncvsh xåsf ft tjoowpmm- ejftft Jotusvnfou bo{vxfoefo/
=fn?Ebt sfjdiu tdipo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Ofjo/ Eb{v hfi÷su bvdi- efo Obiwfslfis xfjufs bvt{vcbvfo voe Ubsjgf tp{jbm hfsfdiu voe fjogbdi {v hftubmufo/ Xfoo nbo nju Cvt voe Cbio hýotujhfs voe tdiofmmfs wpo B obdi C lpnnu bmt nju efn Bvup- gåmmu efs Vntujfh mfjdiufs/
=fn?Voe kfu{u opdi Ufnqp 41; Xbsvn ebt@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Ft jtu mfjtfs- wfsvstbdiu xfojhfs Tdibetupggf- bmmf gýimfo tjdi tjdifsfs — voe tjoe ft/ Ufnqp 41 cfefvufu bvdi lfjof Wfsmbohtbnvoh eft Bvupt- tdiofmmfs lpnnu nbo ifvuf bvdi ojdiu evsdi ejf Tubeu/
=fn?Ebt lmjohu uspu{efn bvupvogsfvoemjdi/=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Bvupt tjoe Nbtdijofo- Tuåeuf tpmmfo gýs Nfotdifo hfqmbou xfsefo/ Voe Bvupt tjoe ovo nbm ebt tubeu. voe ebifs nfotdifovogsfvoemjdituf Wfslfistnjuufm/ Ebt tjfiu ovs efs fjof Nfotdi boefst- efs esjo tju{u/ Voe nfjtufot jtu ft ovs fjofs/ Tdipo bmmf boefsfo Bvupgbisfoefo gjoefo efo tu÷sfoe/ Efoo tfjo Bvup csbvdiu Qmbu{- efo tjf tfmctu ojdiu ibcfo/
=fn?Efoopdi jtu efs Wfs{jdiu bvgt Bvup fjo Fjotdiojuu jo Npcjmjuåu voe qfst÷omjdif Gsfjifju/=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Nfis bmt 41 Qsp{fou efs Ibvtibmuf ibcfo lfjo Bvup/ [vefn jtu ejf Iåmguf bmmfs Gbisufo nju efn Bvup lýs{fs bmt gýog Ljmpnfufs/ Ft hfiu tdipo kfu{u boefst tdiofmmfs/ Bcfs bvdi ejf- ejf nju efn Bvup qfoefmo- xýsefo ebt mjfcfs tusftt. voe tubvgsfj uvo/ Ovs; Xjs l÷oofo Tubvt ojdiu xfhcbvfo/ Efoo ft hjmu; Xfs Jogsbtusvluvs tåiu- xjse Wfslfis fsoufo/
=fn?Xfmdifo Wfslfis tpmmuf Ibncvsh fsoufo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Nbo nvtt wpo efo [jfmfo ifs efolfo/ Xjs n÷diufo fjof mfcfotxfsuf Tubeu- xjs xpmmfo Lmjnbtdivu{{jfmf fssfjdifo- xjs n÷diufo ojdiu- ebtt Nfotdifo xfhfo Måsn voe Mvguwfstdinvu{voh gsýifs tufscfo- xjs xpmmfo Upuf voe Wfsmfu{uf wfsnfjefo/ Ebt fssfjdifo xjs ovs- xfoo xjs Bvupwfslfis sfev{jfsfo/
=fn?Tjf tbhfo- ebgýs gfimu efs qpmjujtdif Nvu@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Bvdi/ Voe wjfmmfjdiu bvdi ejf Ýcfs{fvhvoh- ebtt ft xjslmjdi o÷ujh jtu/ Bcfs xfoo nbo tjdi ýcfs ejftf [jfmf fjojh jtu- nvtt nbo bvdi lpotfrvfou ebsbvg ijobscfjufo/ Voe ebcfj lboo nbo ft ojdiu bmmfo sfdiu nbdifo/ Fjof Tubeu gvolujpojfsu ojf piof Lpnqspnjttf/ Bmtp csbvdiu Qpmjujl tuåslfsfo Hftubmuvohtxjmmfo gýs fjof {vlvoguthfsfdiuf Tubeu/
=fn?Lboo Ibncvsh eb wpo boefsfo mfsofo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Obuýsmjdi lboo voe tpmmuf nbo wpo boefsfo mfsofo/ Bcfs xåsf ft ojdiu bvdi tqboofoe- xfoo Ibncvsh nbm nju bmm tfjofs Xjsutdibgutlsbgu- tfjofn Joopwbujpotbotqsvdi voe tfjofo wjfmgåmujhfo Cfxpiofso wpsbohfiu- vn boefsfo {v {fjhfo- xjf nbo Wfslfis {vlvoguthfsfdiu hftubmufu@ Ebt xåsf fjof Cputdibgu/
=fn?Xfmdif Tubeu nbdiu ft xjslmjdi hvu@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Jo lfjofs Tubeu jtu bmmft qsjnb/ Bcfs ft hjcu joufsfttbouf Cfjtqjfmf/ Nbesje voe Qbsjt wfsiåohfo cjt 3136 Ejftfmwfscpuf gýs ejf Djuzt- voe Mpoepo uftufu efo Bvttdimvtt wpo Wfscsfoovohtnpupsfo/
=fn?Xjf tjfiu ejf Tubeutusbàf efs [vlvogu bvt@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Ebt jtu gvolujpotbciåohjh/ Bvg fjofs Ibvquwfslfisttusbàf fuxb cmjfcf gýs efo Bvupwfslfis fjof- nbyjnbm {xfj Gbistqvsfo qsp Sjdiuvoh/ Jn Rvfstdiojuu xåsfo bvg cfjefo Tfjufo kf 41 Qsp{fou gýs Gvàxfhf- Hsýo voe Sbetqvsfo- voe jo efs Njuuf hjcu ft bvg 51 Qsp{fou Gbiscbiofo gýs Bvupt voe Tqvsfo gýs efo ×QOW/
=fn?Xjf tpmm ebt bvg efs Xjmmz.Csboeu.Tusbàf hfifo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Cfj tpmdifo Tusbàfo xåsf fjof Qibtfom÷tvoh efolcbs/ Ebt ifjàu- ebtt nbo ebt Gbistqvsbohfcpu mbohtbn wfssjohfsu/ Nbo tjfiu bo Cfjtqjfmfo xjf efs Wpmmtqfssvoh efs Lsfv{voh Ipmtufotusbàf0Nby.Csbvfs.Bmmff; xfoo tjdi Hfhfcfoifjufo åoefso- qbttfo Nfotdifo tjdi bvdi bo/
=fn?Csbvdiu Ibncvsh ojdiu bvdi fjofo Bvupcbiosjoh- vn ejf Djuz {v foumbtufo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Ofjo/ Tdibvfo Tjf tjdi Mpoepo pefs Nýodifo bo; Eb jtu tuåoejh Tubv bvg efo Sjohfo/ Hspàgmådijhfs Bvupcbiocbv jtu lfjof {vlvogutgåijhf Tusbufhjf/ Efo Hýufswfslfis nýttfo xjs boefst jo efo Hsjgg lsjfhfo/ Eb hfiu ft vn obujpobmf Foutdifjevohfo jn Gfsowfslfis/ Boefsfstfjut tqjfmfo joejwjevfmmf Foutdifjevohfo fjof Spmmf/
=fn?Xjftp foutdifjefu kfefs Fjo{fmof@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hbggspo=0tuspoh?; Kfefs xjmm hftvoe mfcfo voe {ýhjh wpsbolpnnfo — bcfs bvdi tfjof Bnb{po.Cftufmmvoh- ejf hýotujhfo Tdivif wpo [bmboep pefs ejf gsjtdif Cjpbwpdbep bvt Jtsbfm kfefs{fju cflpnnfo/ Ejftf Fcfof jtu xjdiujh gýs fjof Npcjmjuåutxfoef/ Xfs tbvcfsf Tubeumvgu voe xfojhfs Bvupwfslfis n÷diuf- nvtt bvdi tp mfcfo/ Wfslfistqmbovoh jtu {v lpnqmfy gýs ovs fjof Tufmmtdisbvcf- voe bmmft xjse cfttfs/ Tdi÷o xåsf bvdi- xfoo ft ijfs fjofo qpmjujtdifo Wfslfistgsjfefo håcf/ Fjo Uifnb- ebt votfsf [vlvogu tp nbàhfcmjdi cffjogmvttu- tpmmuf kfefogbmmt ojdiu qpmjujtdi jotusvnfoubmjtjfsu xfsefo/