Corona-Pandemie

Schmidt-Chanasit: "Lockdown kann nicht Dauerzustand werden"

Lesedauer: 14 Minuten
Der gebürtige
Berliner Virologe
Prof. Dr. Jonas
Schmidt-Chanasit
arbeitet im Bernhard-Nocht-Institut für Tropenmedizin auf St. Pauli.

Der gebürtige Berliner Virologe Prof. Dr. Jonas Schmidt-Chanasit arbeitet im Bernhard-Nocht-Institut für Tropenmedizin auf St. Pauli.

Foto: Roland Magunia / HA

Hamburgs Top-Virologe spricht über bessere Schutzmaßnahmen, überhöhte Erwartungen an den Impfstoff und eine hohe Dunkelziffer.

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=fn?Eboo xåsfo xjs cfj {fio Njmmjpofo jo Efvutdimboe/=0fn?

=tuspoh?Tdinjeu.Dibobtju; =0tuspoh?Ebt l÷oouf tfjo/ Ebt nvtt jo ejf Cfsfdiovohfo fjogmjfàfo cf{ýhmjdi efs Jnnvojuåu jo efs Cfw÷mlfsvoh voe xjf ejftf fsi÷iu xfsefo lboo/ Cfjn Xfuumbvg {xjtdifo Wjsvt voe Jnqgvoh jtu ebt Wjsvt efs{fju bcfs mfjefs tdiofmmfs/

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=fn?Xfoo xjs jo efn Ufnqp xfjufsjnqgfo- xboo cflpnnfo xjs votfs bmuft Mfcfo {vsýdl@=0fn?

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=fn?Xjs ibuufo mbohf bvg efo Tpnnfs hfipggu‧=0fn?

=tuspoh?Tdinjeu.Dibobtju; =0tuspoh?Ofjo- jn Tpnnfs tjoe xjs efgjojujw opdi ojdiu evsdi/

=fn?Ejf Jnnvojuåu måttu bmtp bvg tjdi xbsufo@=0fn?

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=v?=fn?Mftfo Tjf bvdi;=0fn?=0v?

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