Islamismus

Der IS – Terror einer modernen Bewegung

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Christian Unger

Foto: Michael Arning

Der Hamburger Islamwissenschaftler und Verfassungsschützer Behnam Said erklärt im Gespräch mit dem Abendblatt, warum die Dschihadisten eine so hohe Anziehungskraft auch auf junge Deutsche hat.

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