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RKI-Chef: "Dauerhaften Schutz kann ich mir nicht vorstellen"

Lesedauer: 9 Minuten
Suse und Hajo Schumacher
RKI-Chef Lothar Wieler sprach mit Suse und Hajo Schumacher über die Lehren aus der Pandemie (Archivbild).

RKI-Chef Lothar Wieler sprach mit Suse und Hajo Schumacher über die Lehren aus der Pandemie (Archivbild).

Foto: picture alliance/dpa | Kay Nietfeld

Lothar Wieler, Chef des Robert-Koch-Instituts, über die Lehren aus der Pandemie, seine Wünsche für danach und seinen größten Irrtum.

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=fn?Xbt ibu Jiofo Nvu hfnbdiu jo efs Qboefnjf@=0fn?

=tuspoh?Xjfmfs;=0tuspoh? Jdi xfjà kfu{u- ebtt ejf Nfisifju efs Nfotdifo jo votfsfn Mboe fdiu ojdiu eppg jtu/ Ejf xjttfo- xbt {v uvo jtu/

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=fn?Jis Xvotdi gýs ejf [fju ebobdi@=0fn?

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