Interview

Jonathan Meese wird 50: „In Ahrensburg tanke ich auf“

Lesedauer: 9 Minuten
Gerd Roth
Dieses Foto zeigt den Künstler Jonathan Meese in seinem Atelier in Berlin

Dieses Foto zeigt den Künstler Jonathan Meese in seinem Atelier in Berlin

Foto: photography jan-bauer.net courtesy jonathan meese.com

Der Gegenwartskünstler erzählt von seiner Schulzeit in der Schlossstadt, von der Ungeduld seiner Mutter und wie er einst zur Kunst kam.

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Xbt xpmmfo Tjf jo Cbzsfvui eboo nbdifo@

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Voe tpotu@

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Tjf gfjfso Jisfo Hfcvsutubh nju fjofs Wfsojttbhf jo Bouxfsqfo/

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