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So arbeiten die Ahnenforscher von Elmshorn

Lesedauer: 5 Minuten
Jens Hachmann und Beate Claßen im Archiv der Vereinigung für Familienkunde Elmshorn

Jens Hachmann und Beate Claßen im Archiv der Vereinigung für Familienkunde Elmshorn

Foto: Anne Dewitz / HA

Familienkundler helfen bei Suche nach eigenen Wurzeln. Die ist zäh: Mancher hatte im Laufe seines Lebens drei verschiedene Vornamen.

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Fürst oder Bauerssohn, das macht einen großen Unterschied

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Vor den preußischen Beamten führten die Pfarrer Buch

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Ahnenforscher wünschen sich besseren Zugang zu Dokumenten

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Nicht nur die Nach-, auch die Vornamen bereiten Probleme

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In der eigenen Familie mit der Ahnenforschung beginnen

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