Interview

UBA-Chef Messner: „Weniger Fleisch würde der Umwelt gut tun“

Lesedauer: 11 Minuten
Theresa Martus und Tim Braune
Klimabilanz 2020: Weniger Treibhausgasemissionen in Deutschland

Klimabilanz 2020: Weniger Treibhausgasemissionen in Deutschland

Deutschland hat seine Klimaziele 2020 eingehalten - allerdings vor allem wegen der Auswirkungen der Corona-Pandemie. Den größten Emissionsrückgang gab es laut der offiziellen Klimabilanz in der Energiewirtschaft.

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Weniger Fleisch essen, mehr Ladesäulen für E-Autos bauen: Dirk Messner, Präsident des Umweltbundesamtes, über Wege aus der Klimakrise.

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