Christoph Marthaler

„Ich bin ein sehr optimistischer Pessimist“

Lesedauer: 11 Minuten
Joachim Mischke
Christoph Marthaler ist Regisseur, Musiker und Schweizer.

Christoph Marthaler ist Regisseur, Musiker und Schweizer.

Foto: Björn Jensen

Der Theater- und Opern-Regisseur Christoph Marthaler ist ein Meister im Umgang mit Eigenwilligkeiten.

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