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Markus Hinterhäuser: „Ich habe nicht mehr diesen Optimismus“

Lesedauer: 15 Minuten
Markus Hinterhäuser, Intendant
der Salzburger Festspiele und selbst
Musiker

Markus Hinterhäuser, Intendant der Salzburger Festspiele und selbst Musiker

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Markus Hinterhäuser, Intendant der Salzburger Festspiele, über Kultur und Corona, über Sehnsüchte, Ängste und Aura.

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Voe xjf hfiu ft Jiofo ebnju@

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‧ nju fjofs Xbdilpnb.Qbujfoujo bmt Fvszejlf bvg efs Cýiof ‧

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