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Blixa Bargelds Neubauten 2020: "Wir werden alle älter"

Seit 40 Jahren Avantgarde: Blixa Bargeld.

Seit 40 Jahren Avantgarde: Blixa Bargeld.

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Das neue Album der einstigen Krach-Pioniere Einstürzende Neubauten klingt zugänglich, fast versöhnlich. Die Songs haben Berlin-Bezüge, seien aber kein "Kommentar" zu seiner Heimatstadt, wie Frontmann Blixa Bargeld im dpa-Interview betont.

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