Interview

Als Jürgen Flimm das Regiepult durch die Gegend schmiss

Auf der Berliner Probebühne hatte Jürgen Flimm noch im März für „Gefährliche Liebschaften“ geprobt.

Auf der Berliner Probebühne hatte Jürgen Flimm noch im März für „Gefährliche Liebschaften“ geprobt.

Foto: Maurizio Gambarini

Am St. Pauli Theater probte der einstige Thalia-Intendant für den Saisonhöhepunkt. Ein Interview in Zeiten leerer Säle.

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