Interview

Klassik: Wer hören will, kann auch streamen

Clemens Trautmann hat Klarinette und Jura studiert, seit 2015 leitet er das Traditions-Label Deutsche Grammophon

Clemens Trautmann hat Klarinette und Jura studiert, seit 2015 leitet er das Traditions-Label Deutsche Grammophon

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Streaming-Angebote verändern den Klassik-Markt. Ein Interview mit Clemens Trautmann, Präsident der Deutschen Grammophon.

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