Interview

Hamburgs Stadtkuratorin: „Mit Schulterzucken kann ich leben“

| Lesedauer: 7 Minuten
Matthias Gretzschel und Iris Hellmuth

Es ist ein einzigartiges Projekt: Sophie Goltz ist Hamburgs erste Stadtkuratorin. Ein Gespräch über Denkmäler im öffentlichen Raum, die Freiheit des Betrachters und ihre ersten Projekte in der Hansestadt.

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