Interview

Gräfin von Bredow: Lebenslang "Kartoffeln mit Stippe"

Lesedauer: 8 Minuten
Barbara Möller

In dieser Woche wird Ilse Gräfin von Bredow 90 - sie schreibt noch immer jeden Tag. Ein Gespräch über Bestseller, die Familie und Wuttränen im Alter

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