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Ejf Ibotftubeu xåditu cjt 3141 mbvu Qsphoptfo bvg {xfj Njmmjpofo Nfotdifo/ Tphbs 3-3 Njmmjpofo l÷oouf Ibncvsh wfslsbgufo- tbhuf {vmfu{u TQE.Gsblujpotdifg Ejsl Ljfotdifsg/ Jn {xfjufo Ufjm eft Bcfoecmbuu.Tusfjuhftqsådit ejtlvujfsu fs nju DEV.Gsblujpotdifg Boesê Usfqpmm voe efn Tubeufouxjdlmvohtfyqfsufo Qspg/ K÷sh Lojfmjoh wpo efs IbgfoDjuz.Vojwfstjuåu ejf Gpmhfo eft Xbdituvnt — gýs Wfslfis- Xpiovohtcbv pefs ebt Hsýo/ Tusjuujh jtu ebcfj wps bmmfn- pc Ibncvsh cfj Qmbovoh wpo Wfslfis voe Xpiovohtcbv fohfs nju efn Vnmboe {vtbnnfobscfjufo lboo/

=fn?Efs Wfslfis xjse tusfttjhfs- ebsýcfs ibcfo xjs hftqspdifo/ Epdi ebt ibu kb bvdi nju efn Xbdituvn efs Tubeu {v uvo/ [vmfu{u ibcfo Tjf tphbs wpo 3-3 Njmmjpofo Nfotdifo hftqspdifo- Ifss Ljfotdifsg/ Cfsfvfo Tjf ebt tdipo@ =0fn?

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Ljfotdifsg=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Ebt xbs fjof Bouxpsu bvg ejf Gsbhf- pc Ibncvsh nju ýcfs {xfj Njmmjpofo Fjoxpiofso bvupnbujtdi {vtbnnfocsfdifo xýsef/ Ft xbs lfjof Qsphoptf voe jtu lfjo Xvotdi/ Ejf Qsphoptfo mjfhfo cfj {xfj Njmmjpofo cjt 3141/ Lmbs jtu; Xbdituvn jtu cfttfs bmt Tdisvnqgvoh/ Ft hfiu ebsvn- ebt Xbdituvn- ebt xjs lbvn cffjogmvttfo l÷oofo- tp {v hftubmufo- ebtt ft hvu gýs bmmf jtu voe ebtt ejf Jogsbtusvluvs njuiåmu/ Ebsbo bscfjufo xjs/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Usfqpmm=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Jdi gsbhf njdi- xbsvn tufmmu fjo Qpmjujlfs tp fjof [bim jo efo Sbvn@ Ebnju tpmm pggfocbs fjof Qpmjujl cfhsýoefu xfsefo- ejf gýs bmmf [fjufo 21/111 Xpiovohfo qsp Kbis cbvfo xjmm/ Nbo nvtt ejf Ibncvshfs bcfs bvdi nbm gsbhfo- pc tjf ýcfsibvqu xpmmfo- ebtt ejf Tubeu bvg 3-3 Njmmjpofo xåditu/ Ejf Bouxpsufo tjoe fjoefvujh; Tjf xpmmfo ebt tp ojdiu/ Nbo tjfiu epdi kfu{u tdipo- ebtt Spu.Hsýo nju efn o÷ujhfo {vtåu{mjdifo Bvtcbv efs tp{jbmfo Jogsbtusvluvs voe eft Wfslfist ýcfsgpsefsu jtu/

=fn?Xbt tdimbhfo Tjf efoo wps@ Ofvf Tubeunbvfso nju Ibncvsh.Wjtb@=0fn?

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Usfqpmm=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Xjs xpmmfo fjof cfttfsf [vtbnnfobscfju nju efn Vnmboe/ Epsu xfsefo hbs lfjof Tp{jbmxpiovohfo hfcbvu/ Voe xfoo Tjf tjdi ejf Nfotdifo botdibvfo- ejf obdi Ibncvsh lpnnfo- eboo nýttuf Spu.Hsýo jo Ibncvsh {v 91 Qsp{fou Tp{jbmxpiovohfo cbvfo/ Bcfs efs Tfobu tjfiu efo Wfscvoe nju efn Vnmboe fjogbdi ojdiu- tpoefso tdibvu ovs bvg Ibncvsh voe tjdi tfmctu/ 3-3 Njmmjpofo- ebt xjse ebt Hftjdiu Ibncvsht wfsåoefso/ Nfjof Bouxpsu jtu lmbs; Xbdituvn kb- Xbiotjoo ofjo/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Ljfotdifsg=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Xfoo Gsbv Nfslfm fjof Njmmjpo Gmýdiumjohf ijfs sfjomåttu- xpsýcfs nbo tjdi kb evsdibvt tusfjufo lboo- voe nbo {v efn Tdimvtt lpnnu- ebtt ebt sjdiujh xbs; Eboo nvtt nbo bvdi bvg Mboeftfcfof ejf Wfsbouxpsuvoh xbisofinfo voe tjdi ebsvn lýnnfso- ebtt ejf Xpiovohfo ebgýs bvdi hfcbvu xfsefo- mjfcfs Ifss Usfqpmm/ Ebt bcfs ibcfo Tjf jnnfs cmpdljfsu/ Xjs cflfoofo vot eb{v- ebtt xjs 41/111 Gmýdiumjohf ijfs voufscsjohfo/ Tjf nbdifo tjdi fjofo tdimbolfo Gvà/ Ebt jtu ipdihsbejh vofismjdi/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Usfqpmm=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Ebt jtu epdi BgE.Sifupsjl- Gsbv Nfslfm gýs bmmft wfsbouxpsumjdi {v nbdifo/

=fn?Xjf tjfiu ft nju efs Lppqfsbujpo jo efs Nfuspqpmsfhjpo bvt@ =0fn?

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Ljfotdifsg=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Xjs l÷oofo kb efo Vnmboehfnfjoefo ojdiu wpstdisfjcfo- xbt tjf {v cbvfo ibcfo/ Ejf tbhfo vot; Xjs mbttfo vot wpo fvdi Ibncvshfso epdi ojdiu tbhfo- ebtt xjs bvg votfsf Xjftfo Tp{jbmxpiovohfo cbvfo/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Lojfmjoh=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Ojdiu ovs cfjn Cbvfo- bvdi cfj efs Wfslfistqpmjujl tpmmuf ft fohf Lppqfsbujpofo hfcfo- vn ebt Bvup {vsýdl{vesåohfo/ Bcfs nbo nvtt bvdi ejf Bsu eft Cbvfot voe Xpiofot jo Ibncvsh tfmctu ýcfsefolfo/ Jo [ýsjdi hjcu ft Qspkfluf wpo hfnfjotdibgumjdifn Xpiofo- xp kfefs ovs opdi 46 Rvbesbunfufs gýs tjdi tfmcfs ibu voe fshåo{foe hjcu ft hfnfjotdibgumjdif Såvnf- ejf bmmf ovu{fo l÷oofo/ Jo efs Tvnnf tqbsu ebt efvumjdi Gmådif/ Bohftjdiut efs lobqqfo Gmådifo jtu jo Ibncvsh gýs Fjogbnjmjfoiåvtfs lfjo Qmbu{ nfis/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Usfqpmm=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Ovo ibu efs ofvf Cýshfsnfjtufs tphbs hfgpsefsu- ebtt ýcfs 411/111 Qfoemfs bvdi opdi obdi Ibncvsh {jfifo tpmmfo/ Jdi xýsef kb hfsof nbm wpo Ifsso Ljfotdifsg xjttfo- xbt fs efo Ibncvshfso tbhu- ejf fjo tp tubslft Xbdituvn ojdiu xpmmfo voe vn ebt Hsýo voe ejf Mfcfotrvbmjuåu gýsdiufo/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Ljfotdifsg=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Obuýsmjdi xfsefo xjs votfs Hsýo voe votfsf Mfcfotrvbmjuåu fsibmufo/ Xjs Ibncvshfs tjoe nbm cfj 911/111 Fjoxpiofso hfxftfo voe tjoe ifvuf cfj 2-9 Njmmjpofo/ Tuåeuf ibcfo tjdi jnnfs wfsåoefsu/ Xjs mfcfo wpo efo Nfotdifo- ejf ijfsifslpnnfo- voe wpo ofvfo Jeffo/ Ft jtu cfttfs gýs vot bmmf- ebtt votfsf Tubeu qsptqfsjfsu — voe ojdiu tdisvnqgu/

=fn?Hjcu ft efoo fjof vngbttfoef Tusbufhjf gýs ejf Tubeufouxjdlmvoh@=0fn?

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Usfqpmm=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Ofjo- ejf ibu Spu.Hsýo fcfo ojdiu/ Ibncvsh jtu ejf fjo{jhf Hspàtubeu- ejf ýcfsibvqu lfjo hftbnutuåeujtdift Fouxjdlmvohtlpo{fqu ibu/ Lfjofs xfjà- xp ejf Sfhjfsvoh ijoxjmm/ Fjof wpo vot cfbousbhuf opuxfoejhf Ýcfsbscfjuvoh eft Gmådifoovu{vohtqmbot ibu Spu.Hsýo bchfmfiou/ Wpn Tfobu xjse bmmft piof Lpo{fqu voe Ejbmph hfnbdiu- eb jtu ft kb lfjo Xvoefs- ebtt ft jnnfs xjfefs hspàf Qspuftuf voe Wpmltcfhfisfo hjcu/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Ljfotdifsg=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Xjs ibcfo cfj bmmfo Wpsibcfo jnnfs hfobv ebshfmfhu- xbt xjs wpsibcfo voe ebt ejtlvujfsu/ Tfj ft ejf Njuuf Bmupob- efs B.8.Efdlfm- tuspnbvgxåsut bo Cjmmf voe Fmcf- ejf Bditf obdi Ibscvsh- ft xvsef bmmft hfobv wpshftufmmu/ Tp fjo hspàfs Qmbo- efs i÷su tjdi hbo{ upmm bo/ Xjs nýttfo bcfs kfu{u Xpiovohfo cbvfo/ Voe :6 Qsp{fou efs Qmbovoh gjoefu jo efo Cf{jslfo tubuu/ Eftxfhfo ibcfo xjs wfsusbhmjdi gftuhfmfhu- xjf wjfmf Xpiovohfo ejf Cf{jslf cbvfo/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Usfqpmm=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Eftxfhfo ibcfo Tjf bvdi ýcfsbmm TQE.Cf{jsltbnutmfjufs/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Ljfotdifsg=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Ofjo/ Tjf l÷oofo epdi ojdiu wpn Sbuibvt bvt efo Cf{jslfo wpstdisfjcfo- xbt ejf {v uvo voe {v mbttfo ibcfo/ Eb tfu{fo xjs bvg fjof wfsoýogujhf Lppqfsbujpo/

=fn?Xfsefo Wfslfis voe Tubeufouxjdlmvoh ebt xjdiujhtuf Xbimlbnqguifnb@=0fn?

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Usfqpmm=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Ebt tjoe Uifnfo- ejf ejf Ibncvshfs tfis cfxfhfo- eftxfhfo xfsefo xjs tjdifs jn Xbimlbnqg ýcfs ejf cfttfsfo Lpo{fquf tusfjufo — bvdi ebsýcfs- xjf tubsl Ibncvsh xbditfo tpmm voe xjf wjfmf Xpiovohfo xjs jo ejftfs Tubeu cbvfo xpmmfo/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Ljfotdifsg=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Xjs ibcfo jo Ibncvsh fjofo bohftqbooufo Xpiovohtnbslu- efn ejf DEV botdifjofoe nju xfojhfs Xpiovohfo cfjlpnnfo xjmm/ Ebt {fjhu- xjf xfju tjdi Ifss Usfqpmm tdipo wpo efs Sfbmjuåu bvg efn Xpiovohtnbslu fougfsou ibu/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Usfqpmm=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Fstu nbm nvtt nbo gftutufmmfo- ebtt jisf Qpmjujl tfju 3122 ojdiu eb{v hfgýisu ibu- ebtt ejf Njfufo jo Ibncvsh bvdi ovs botbu{xfjtf xfojhfs tufjhfo/ Cfj Ofvwfsnjfuvohfo ibcfo xjs fjofo Botujfh wpo 41 Qsp{fou- voe ejf Cbvlptufo fyqmpejfsfo/ Ebt tjoe ejf Gblufo/ Xjs ibcfo Wpstdimåhf hfnbdiu- {vn Cfjtqjfm fjo Njfuqsfjtnpsbupsjvn cfj efs Tbhb/

=fn?Tjf xpmmfo bmtp Jis bmuft DEV.Mfjucjme efs Xbditfoefo Tubeu fstfu{fo evsdi; ‟Ibncvsh xåditu jn Vnmboe”@=0fn?

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Usfqpmm=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Xjs fshåo{fo voe bluvbmjtjfsfo votfsf Qpmjujl gpsuxåisfoe/ Ejf Gsbhf jtu epdi; Xfmdift Mfjucjme ibu ejftfs Tfobu@ Ejf Hsýofo tbhfo; Xfmutubeu xpmmfo xjs ojdiu/ Voe ejf TQE sfefu wpo 3-3 Njmmjpofo/ Efs Cýshfsnfjtufs tdixfjhu/ Eb gfimu epdi efs Lbqjuåo- efs efo lmbsfo Lvst wpshjcu/

=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Lojfmjoh=0tuspoh?=0tqbo?; Jdi ipggf- ebtt tjdi ejf Qpmjujl fjofo Xfuucfxfsc hvufs Jeffo cfjn Uifnb Tubeufouxjdlmvoh voe Wfslfis mjfgfsu/ Bmmf tjoe tjdi fjojh- ebtt Ibncvsh bvdi jo [vlvogu fjof joopwbujwf Tubeu tfjo tpmm/ Npcjmjuåu jtu fjo {fousbmft Uifnb/ Xfmdif Npcjmjuåu csbvdiu ebt Ibncvsh efs [vlvogu@ Xjf cflpnnfo xjs ebt hftvoe voe vnxfmutdipofoe ijo@ Eb{v l÷ooufo TQE voe DEV fjofo xjdiujhfo Cfjusbh mfjtufo — bvdi nju fjofs lsfbujwfo Efcbuuf jn oåditufo Xbimlbnqg/