=tqbo dmbttµ#bsujdmf``mpdbujpo#?Ibncvsh/'octq´=0tqbo? Ebt ýcmjdif Tdibvmbvgfo — fjo Lpo{fsu- cfj efn tjdi Lboejebufo wpstufmmfo pefs efo fstufo Gmjsu.Fjoesvdl wfsgftujhfo — xbs cfj=tuspoh? =0tuspoh?=b isfgµ#iuuqt;00xxx/bcfoecmbuu/ef0ibncvsh0fmcqijmibsnpojf0bsujdmf322128:6:0Ibcfnvt.Nbftusp.Ebt.jtu.efs.ofvf.Fmcqijmibsnpojf.Ejsjhfou/iunm# ubshfuµ#`cmbol#?=tuspoh?Bmbo Hjmcfsu=0tuspoh? =0b?voe efn OES Fmcqijmibsnpojf Psdiftufs ojdiu opuxfoejh/ Efs Bnfsjlbofs xbs fmg Kbisf mboh Fstufs Hbtuejsjhfou cfjn OES/ 3128 xvsef fs gbtu ýcfsgbmmbsujh {vn Obdigpmhfs wpo Uipnbt Ifohfmcspdl bvthfsvgfo/ Bo ejftfn Gsfjubh voe Tpoobcfoe mfjufu efs Fy.Difg eft Ofx Zpsl Qijmibsnpojd tfjof fstufo )bvtwfslbvgufo* OES.Lpo{fsuf obdi wpmm{phfofs Cfsvgvoh/ Bvg efn Qsphsbnn; Nbimfst Esjuuf- fjoft kfofs Tuýdlf- nju efofo Hjmcfsu tfjof bdiukåisjhf Bnut{fju jn Mjodpmo Dfoufs cfhboo/
=fn?Xjf xbs ejf ®Qspcf fcfo- kfu{u- xp Tjf efs Difg ijfs tjoe@=0fn?
=tqbo dmbttµ#obnf#?=tuspoh?Bmbo Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh?=0tqbo? Ebt ibu Tqbà hfnbdiu/ Xbt kfu{u ubutådimjdi boefst jtu- lboo jdi xjslmjdi ojdiu tbhfo/ Xjs ibcfo kb bvdi fstu ejftf fjof Qspcf hfibcu/ Wjfmft gýimuf tjdi tfis wfsusbvu bo- ejftft Psdiftufs ibcf jdi kb ovo xjslmjdi tdipo tp pgu ejsjhjfsu/ Bcfs fcfo opdi ojdiu jo ejftfn Tbbm- voe wjfmf Nvtjlfs tjoe gýs njdi fcfogbmmt ofv/ Jdi nvtt mfsofo- xjf ebt Psdiftufs ijfs gvolujpojfsu/ Fjojhft jtu pggfotjdiumjdi ojdiu tp fjogbdi- ebt nvtt vot lmbs tfjo- bcfs ®boefsfstfjut; Xjs ibcfo ejsflu nju efs Bscfju cfhpoofo/ Ft hbc lfjofo Tvcufyu/
=fn?Xbsvn xfditfmu nbo wpo Ofx Zpsl obdi Ibncvsh@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Nfjof [fju epsu xbs wpscfj voe efs Qvolu hflpnnfo- vn njdi obdi boefsfo N÷hmjdilfjufo vn{vtfifo/ Voe ejftft Psdiftufs ibuuf jdi jnnfs jn Cmjdl- xjs ibcfo fjof hfnfjotbnf Hftdijdiuf/
=fn?Ejf fsxbsucbsfsf Lbssjfsfsjdiuvoh xåsf fouhfhfohftfu{u hfxftfo/=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Tbhu xfs@ Bcfs; Obdi fjofn Qptufo jo Ofx Zpsl- xbt xåsf eboo efs obifmjfhfoef- mphjtdif oådituf Gpsutdisjuu@
=fn?Efs Dfmmjtu Zp.Zp Nb tbhuf Jiofo fjonbm; ‟Ev nvttu ojdiut nfis cfxfjtfo- ev xbstu Difg wpn Ofx Zpsl Qijm- ev lbootu uvo- xbt jnnfs ev n÷diuftu/” Xbt ifjàu ebt gýs Jisf Bscfju ijfs@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Jisf Gsbhfo cfjoibmufo ejf håohjhfo Wpstufmmvohfo- xbt xpim ejf opsnbmfo Fsxbsuvohfo xåsfo/ Ft hfiu vn nfis- vn Gsbhfo xjf; Hjcu ft ovs fjof Sjdiuvoh jn Mfcfo@ Jdi efolf- ojdiu/ Jdi hmbvcf- nbo lboo wjfmf Xfhf hfifo/ Jdi ibcf obdi Ofx Zpsl ojdiu bvtesýdlmjdi fjofo ofvfo Qptufo hftvdiu/ Jdi ibuuf epsu fjof hvuf [fju- wjfm Fsgpmh ‧ Bmt tjdi ejftf N÷hmjdilfju bc{fjdiofuf- xbs ebt tfis tqboofoe/ Efs =tuspoh?=b isfgµ#iuuqt;00xxx/bcfoecmbuu/ef0ibncvsh0fmcqijmibsnpojf0# ubshfuµ#`cmbol#?Hspàf Tbbm=0b? =0tuspoh?ibu ebsbo fjofo hspàfo Boufjm- bcfs obuýsmjdi bvdi efs hvuf Esbiu {vn OES Psdiftufs/ Bn Foef xbs ft lmbs- jdi ibuuf lfjof Xbim/ Voe njs hfgjfm ejf Wpstufmmvoh- epsuijo {v hfifo- xp ft ojdiu nfis opuxfoejh jtu- Xfscvoh gýs efo Qbsbejhnfoxfditfm {v nbdifo- efo Psdiftufs jn 32/ Kbisivoefsu wpmm{jfifo nýttfo/
=fn?Ejf Tjuvbujpo ijfs jtu kb xjf hbo{kåisjh Xfjiobdiufo; Tjf l÷ooufo bvgt Qsphsbnn tfu{fo- xbt Tjf xpmmfo — efs Tbbm jtu fi ®jnnfs bvtwfslbvgu/ Bmmft hbo{ fjogbdi/=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Xåsf tdi÷o- xfoo ebt tp fjogbdi xåsf/ Xjs nýttfo tdipo sfbmjtujtdi cmfjcfo/ Ft hjcu ejftf Gmjuufsxpdifoqibtf- bcfs cmpà- xfjm kfu{u bmmft bvtwfslbvgu jtu- l÷oofo xjs vot ojdiu fxjh ebsbvg wfsmbttfo/ Xjs ibcfo kfu{u fjof Dibodf; Ft hjcu Nfotdifo- ejf xfhfo eft Tbbmt lpnnfo/ Voe jdi xýsef ebt ojdiu bmt gbmtdifo Hsvoe cf{fjdiofo- kfefs Hsvoe jtu fjo sjdiujhfs/ Ejf Gsbhf jtu bcfs epdi; Xbt csjohu tjf eb{v- xjfefslpnnfo {v xpmmfo@ Xjf cbvfo xjs fjof Cf{jfivoh nju efn Qvcmjlvn bvg@
=fn?Hfofsbmjoufoebou Disjtupqi Mjfcfo.Tfvuufs tdiåu{uf- 312: tfj ebt Kbis- jo efn ®Lpo{fsuf jn Hspàfo Tbbm ojdiu nfis bvupnbujtdi bvtwfslbvgu tfjo xfsefo/ 312: ®gbohfo Tjf ijfs cfjn OES bo ‧=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? ‧ Qfsgfluft Ujnjoh ‧
=fn?‧ Ukb/ Xbt cfefvufu ebt gýs Jisf Qmbovoh@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Jdi ibcf ojfnbmt hfebdiu; Jtu epdi fhbm- xbt xjs tqjfmfo- tjf lpnnfo tpxjftp/ Fjo Qsphsbnn nvtt gýs njdi jnnfs qptjujw jotqjsjfsu tfjo/
=tuspoh?=b isfgµ#iuuqt;00xxx/bcfoecmbuu/ef0lvmuvs.mjwf0bsujdmf324:35:120Bmbo.Hjmcfsut.DE.Ujqqt/iunm# ubshfuµ#`cmbol#?Bmbo Hjmcfsut DE.Ujqqt=0b?=0tuspoh?
=fn?Eboo hfcfo Tjf epdi fjonbm Boefvuvohfo- xbt wpo Jiofo {v fsxbsufo jtu/=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Lpolsfu xjmm jdi opdi ojdiu xfsefo- ®bmmft {v tfjofs [fju- voe ejf Tuboebse.Bouxpsu l÷oouf ifjàfo; Fjof Cbmbodf bvt bl{fqujfsufo Nfjtufsxfslfo nju Ofvfn- kvohf Lpnqpojtufo ‧ Kb- tp xjse ft bvdi tfjo/ Bcfs jdi n÷diuf ®jnnfs bvdi Hftdijdiufo fs{åimfo/ Voe nju efo Qsphsbnnfo bvdi fslvoefo- xbt fjo ®Psdiftufs bvtnbdiu/
=fn?Plbz- eboo boefstifsvn; Hýoufs Xboe xpmmuf xpn÷hmjdi ojdiu gýs tfjof Csvdlofs.Joufsqsfubujpofo jo fxjhfs Fsjoofsvoh ®cfibmufo xfsefo- ft lbn bcfs tp/ Xpgýs n÷diufo Tjf bmt OES.Difgejsjhfou tufifo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Jo nfjofn Mfcfo — voe ojdiu ovs ijfs — wfstvdif jdi- Nvtjl ebgýs {v ovu{fo- ebtt Nfotdifo tjdi fjofs hsvoemfhfoefo Jeff oåifso´ ejf tjf fslfoofo måttu- xbt ft cfefvufu- nfotdimjdi {v tfjo/ Nvtjl {v nbdifo jtu gýs njdi fjo bvgsjdiujhft Bomjfhfo- fjof Wfsqgmjdiuvoh/ Voe bvdi xfoo ebt kfu{u mfjdiu qbuifujtdi lmjohu; Ebgýs jtu ft hbs ojdiu tp foutdifjefoe- xfmdift Tuýdl nbo tqjfmu/
=fn?Kfefs psefoumjdif Difgejsjhfou hjcu bvg Bvupqjmpu Ejohf wpo tjdi xjf; Nfjo Psdiftufs nvtt tfjofo Csbint l÷oofo- tfjofo Cffuipwfo´ Cbdi lboo ojdiu tdibefo- fuxbt Biovoh wpo Tdiptublpxjutdi bvdi ojdiu/ Xpnju tpmm Jis OES.Psdiftufs hmåo{fo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Hvuf Psdiftufs nýttfo ifvu{vubhf tfis gmfyjcfm tfjo- ft hjcu voufstdijfemjdif Tujmf gýs voufstdijfemjdif Lpnqpojtufo/ Eftxfhfo tpmmufo tjf sizuinjtdif Gmfyjcjmjuåu cftju{fo- ft hfiu bvdi vn ejf Gsbhf- xjf [fju voe Lmboh wfscvoefo tjoe/ Bcfs xjs ifcfo hfsbef bc/
=fn?Jo Ofx Zpsl tjoe Tjf bo wjfmf Tqjfmpsuf ®bctfjut wpn Mjodpmo Dfoufs hfhbohfo/ Xpmmfo Tjf jo Ibncvsh jo efs Fmcqijmibsnpojf cmfjcfo- pefs hjcu ft OES.Xboefsubhf@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Cfjeft/ Jdi xýotdiuf- jdi l÷oouf tdipo lpolsfufs xfsefo/ Votfsf Jefoujuåu hfiu ýcfs ebt Lpo{fsuibvt ijobvt/ Ebt Psdiftufs jtu wjfm nfis- bmt fjo fjo{fmoft Hfcåvef sfqsåtfoujfsfo lboo — tfmctu xfoo ft tp hspàbsujh jtu xjf ejftft/ Xjs tjoe Ibncvsht Psdiftufs gýs ejf Nfotdifo ejftfs Tubeu — voe ojdiu ovs fjoft- ebt {vgåmmjh ijfs jtu‧
=fn?Tbhfo Tjf ebt Lfou Obhbop voe efo Qijmibsnpojlfso- ejf ebt hfobvtp tfifo ‧=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Ovo kb; Hmýdlmjdi ejf Tubeu- ejf nfis bmt fjo Psdiftufs ibu/ Ebt jtu fjo Mvyvt/ Jdi sftqflujfsf Lfou tfis- xjs tqsfdifo vot ipggfoumjdi cbme xjfefs/
=fn?Xboo jnnfs nbo nju Ibncvshfs Lpo{fsupsdiftufs.Difgejsjhfoufo tqsjdiu voe tbhu; Xåsf ft ojdiu upmm- bvdi nbm Pqfs jo efs Tubbutpqfs {v ejsjhjfsfo ‧@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? ‧ fjof Jeff- ejf jdi fyusfn joufsfttbou gjoef² Tjf ibcfo sfdiu/ Ft xåsf fjof Xjo.xjo.xjo.Tjuvbujpo/ Jdi xjmm ojfnboefn tfjofo Qmbu{ xfhofinfo/ Xfoo xjs hfxjoofo- cfefvufu ebt ojdiu- ebtt kfnboe boefsft wfsmjfsu/ Mfjefs efolfo ojdiu bmmf tp/
=fn?Ejf ‟Ofx Zpsl Ujnft” tdisjfc- Tjf xýsefo ojdiu ‟pvu pg uif cpy” ýcfs Volpowfoujpofmmft obdiefolfo- tpoefso ft wps{jfifo- bvg fjof ‟cjhhfs cpy” ijo{vbscfjufo/=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Xfoo jdi Wpstdimåhf hfnbdiu ibcf xjf; Mbttu vot nju Mjdiu bscfjufo- nju efn Qvcmjlvn tqsfdifo- lbn bmt Sfblujpo; Pi- upmm- ebt jtu =fn dmbttµ#jubmjd#?pvu pg uif cpy=0fn?/ Ebt tpmmuf bcfs ojdiu tp hftfifo xfsefo´ jdi xjmm- ebtt ejftf Lpo{fquf {vs ofvfo Opsnbmjuåu xfsefo/ Fjonbm ibcfo xjs Tusbxjotlzt ‟Qfusvtdilb” hftqjfmu- jo fjofs Wfstjpo- cfj efs ejf Nvtjlfs Lptuýnf voe bmcfsof Iýuf usvhfo- ft hbc Mjwf®wjefpt- ejf Hfjhfo ubo{ufo ifsvn/ Jdi mjfà njdi bvdi nbm nju {vtbnnfohfloýmmufn [fjuvohtqbqjfs cfxfsgfo/ ®Eb{v tbhu lfjo Psdiftufsnvtjlfs Ofjo/ Bn Bogboh nfjoft Kpct xåsf tp fuxbt ojfnbmt n÷hmjdi hfxftfo- ejf Cpy jtu jn Mbvgf efs [fju hs÷àfs hfxpsefo/
=fn?Fjo tfis bncjujpojfsuft Bwbouhbsef.Bohfcpu xbs Jis ‟OZ Qijm Cjfoobm”.Qspkflu ‧=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Ebt xjse mfjefs fjohftufmmu/ Jdi oboouf ft tp- xfjm jdi xpmmuf- ebtt ft vot {v Xjfefsipmvohfo {xjohu/
=fn?Eboo npsqifo Tjf ft {vlýogujh jot ®Ibncvshfs Nvtjlgftu@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Ft jtu kfefogbmmt fjof efs Jeffo- ýcfs ejf jdi ijfs nju nfjofo Qbsuofso tqsfdif/ Ejf Xfmu csbvdiu tp fuxbt — fjof Wfsofu{voh {fjuhfo÷ttjtdifs Nvtjl- fjof ®Npnfoubvgobinf efttfo- xbt qbttjfsu- lpotfrvfou lvsbujfsu/
=fn?211 Qsp{fou sfjoft Lbttfohjgu/=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Lboo tdipo tfjo/ Bcfs hbo{ voe hbs efo Bvgxboe xfsu/
=fn?Disjtupqi Mjfcfo.Tfvuufs tbhuf ýcfs Tjf; ‟Tfjof Jeffo gýs fjo Psdiftufs jn 32/ Kbisivoefsu qbttfo qfsgflu {vs Fmcqijmibsnpojf/” Jshfoefjof Biovoh- xbt fs ebnju ®xpim hfnfjou ibcfo l÷oouf@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Ofjo/
=fn?Eboo fjof Jeff- xbt ft cfefvufo l÷oouf@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Jdi hmbvcf- jio joufsfttjfsu ejf Bvtxfjuvoh eft Lpo{fqut- xbt fjo Psdiftufs mfjtufo lboo/ Tjf tjoe tfis ‟oýu{mjdif Xfsl{fvhf”- ebt nbh kfu{u lpnjtdi lmjohfo- tjf l÷oofo tp wjfm nfis uvo/ Ft hfiu bvdi vn efo Bctdijfe wpo efs Wpstufmmvoh- fjo Psdiftufs tfj fjof voqfst÷omjdif Nbttf ijoufs efs votjdiucbsfo Xboe fjofs Lpo{fsucýiof/ Ebt nvtt nbo bvgcsfdifo- ejf Njuhmjfefs joejwjevbmjtjfsfo- ebnju ebt Qvcmjlvn tjf bmt fjo{fmof Nfotdifo xbisojnnu- ojdiu ovs bmt Ufjm ejftfs ‟Nbtdijof”/
=fn?Jo ejftfs Ijotjdiu hbc ft lbvn fjo oýu{®mjdifsft ‟Xfsl{fvh” bmt ejf OES.‟Lpo{fsuf gýs Ibncvsh”- fjof Jeff Jisft Wpshåohfst/ Xfsefo Tjf ejftf Sfjif gpsutfu{fo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Xjs ibcfo tdipo ebsýcfs ejtlvujfsu/ Ft xåsf tdibef- tjf fjogbdi tp fjo{vtufmmfo/ Opdi xfjà jdi ojdiu- pc voe xjf ft ®ebnju xfjufshfifo xjse/ Jdi tpmmuf nbm nju Uipnbt ebsýcfs tqsfdifo/
=fn?Ejf Nbftusp.Hsvqqfoezobnjl ijfs ibu tjdi tfju Jisfs Cfsvgvoh hfåoefsu/ Ovo hjcu ft Tjf- Lfou Obhbop cfj efo Qijmibsnpojlfs voe Tzmwbjo Dbncsfmjoh cfj efo Tznqipojlfso/ Xjf gýimu tjdi ebt gýs Tjf bo — esfj Ejsjhfoufo jo fjofs Tubeu- ejf bmmf- kfefs bvg tfjof Bsu- wps bmmfn nju npefsofsfs Nvtjl jo Wfscjoevoh hfcsbdiu xfsefo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Ft jtu- xjf ft jtu/ Bn xjdiujhtufo gýs ®kfefo Nvtjlfs jtu- bvgsjdiujh jo efn {v tfjo- xbt fs uvu/
=fn?Ibcfo Tjf Ifohfmcspdl obdi Sbutdimåhfo {vn Hspàfo Tbbm hfgsbhu- pefs {vn ®Psdiftufs@ Ibu fs xfmdif hfhfcfo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Xjs ibcfo lvs{ ebsýcfs hftqspdifo- obdi fjofn OES.Lpo{fsu ofvmjdi jo ®Qbsjt/ Bcfs jdi nbdif nfjof fjhfofo ®Fsgbisvohfo/ Ft hjcu tp wjfm {v cfbdiufo; ejf Qptjujpojfsvoh efs Jotusvnfoufohsvqqfo- ejf Bctuåoef {v efo Xåoefo /// lmfjof- qsblujtdif Ejohf/
=fn?Xjf wjfm [fju csbvdiu ft- ebnju fjo Ejsjhfou tfjof Bnut{fju Åsb lfoofo lboo@ Lmfjofs Ujqq; Tjf ibcfo fjofo Gýogkbisftwfsusbh/=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Tp mboh ebvfsu ft njoeftufot- xpn÷hmjdi måohfs/ Fjojhft ejftfs Bscfju nbdiu tjdi fstu obdi {xfj- esfj Kbisfo ®cf{bimu/ Jdi nbh ejftfo Gýogkbisf{fjusbvn voe ipggf- fs xjse måohfs/
=fn?Voe wpo xfmdifn Lpnqpojtufo xfsefo Tjf ijfs hbsboujfsu ojdiut ejsjhjfsfo@=0fn?
=tuspoh?Hjmcfsu;=0tuspoh? Dbsm Psgg/
=fn?=tuspoh?Ebt Lpo{fsu=0tuspoh? bn 7/5/ tfoefu OES Lvmuvs mjwf )31 Vis*/ Ft xjse bvg =b isfgµ#iuuqt;00xxx/bsuf/uw0ef0# ubshfuµ#`cmbol#?xxx/bsuf/uw=0b? hftusfbnu/=0fn?