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Hamburgs AfD-Chef: „Wir sind Teil einer großen Bewegung“

Der Hamburger AfD-Vorsitzende
Bernd Baumann – hier im Hamburger Rathaus

Der Hamburger AfD-Vorsitzende Bernd Baumann – hier im Hamburger Rathaus

Foto: Roland Magunia / HA

Bernd Baumann über das neue Parteiprogramm, den Islam, die Fehler der 68er und die kritischen Aussagen von Fraktionschef Jörn Kruse.

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