CDU-Spitzenkandidat

Dietrich Wersich – So tickt Olaf Scholz‘ Herausforderer

Lesedauer: 13 Minuten
Insa Gall

Im Herbst beginnt in Hamburg der Wahlkampf um die Bürgerschaft. Im Sommergespräch spricht CDU-Spitzenkandidat Dietrich Wersich über seine Wahlchancen, seine Kindheit – und macht ein Geständnis.

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„Bei mir geht es nicht um Gehorsam und Machtworte“

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