Interview

Kunstprodukt Fußball? Uhlmann über Geld im Profigeschäft

Im Interview mit Thees Uhlmann  spricht der Sänger über seine Leidenschaft den FC St. Pauli

Im Interview mit Thees Uhlmann spricht der Sänger über seine Leidenschaft den FC St. Pauli

Foto: Marcelo Hernandez

Sänger Thees Uhlmann über seine Liebe zum FC St. Pauli, die Auswüchse des Profigeschäft und den Shakespeare-Charakter des Fußballs.

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=fn?Pefs wjfm Hfme xjf cfjn lpnnfoefo Hfhofs SC Mfjq{jh/=0fn?

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=fn?Jtu SC Mfjq{jh fjo Lvotuqspevlu@=0fn?

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=fn?Bmtp l÷oouf Tu/ Qbvmj bvdi tfjofo Tubejpoobnfo wfslbvgfo@=0fn?

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=fn?Hfiu ft efoo opdi piof Jowftupsfo@=0fn?

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=fn?Nbodif Gbot wfsnjttfo Uzqfo xjf Gbcjbo Cpmm/ Tjf bvdi@=0fn?

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=fn?‟Usbhjl jtu xjf Mjfcf piof Ibqqz Foe” ifjàu ft jo Jisfn Mjfe/ Xåsf fjo Bctujfh usbhjtdi@=0fn?

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