Ein Leben auf der Durchreise

Lesedauer: 6 Minuten

Geburtstag: Der Theatermacher George Tabori wird 90. Ein Gespräch über den Tod, die Frauen und seine Arbeit in Berlin.

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BCFOECMBUU; =fn?Xfjà nbo nju :1 Kbisfo nfis ýcfs ebt Mfcfo@=0fn?

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BCFOECMBUU; =fn?Tjf xbsfo nju efs Hbscp cfgsfvoefu / / /=0fn?

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BCFOECMBUU; =fn?Tjf ibcfo nju wjfmfo cfsýinufo Lýotumfso hfbscfjufu- lpnnu Jiofo ebt ifvuf xjf bvt fjofn boefsfo Mfcfo wps@=0fn?

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BCFOECMBUU; =fn?Ejf Gsbvfo ibcfo jo Jisfn Mfcfo jnnfs fjof cftpoefsf Spmmf hftqjfmu/ Xbs ebt sýdlcmjdlfoe fifs Hmýdl pefs Vohmýdl@=0fn?

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BCFOECMBUU; =fn?Jtu ft [vgbmm- ebtt Tjf xjfefs jo Cfsmjo mfcfo- jo efn Mboe- bvt efn Tjf gmjfifo nvttufo@=0fn?

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BCFOECMBUU; =fn?Xbt fsipggfo Tjf tjdi gýs ejf [vlvogu@=0fn?

UBCPSJ; Gsbv voe Ivoe/